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Extreme Interviewing - Lisamarie Babik of Menlo Innovations

EXTREME INTERVIEWING: FINDING THE RIGHT PEOPLE FOR YOUR AGILE TEAMS Lisamarie Babik, Menlo Innovations

Why are we here at o-dark-thirty? Learn a little about Menlo Learn how and why Extreme Interviewing was created Simulate an Extreme Interviewing event Have fun! (Yes, even at 8:30 am on the last day of the conference!) Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

Learn a little about Menlo

Learn how and why Extreme Interviewing was created

Simulate an Extreme Interviewing event

Have fun! (Yes, even at 8:30 am on the last day of the conference!)

A Little About Me My life before Agile (there was life before agile?) What I do at Menlo Why I love what I do Everything you need to know about how I didn’t invent Extreme Interviewing Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

My life before Agile (there was life before agile?)

What I do at Menlo

Why I love what I do

Everything you need to know about how I didn’t invent Extreme Interviewing

A Little About Menlo Founded in 2001 by four partners We build no products for ourselves; rather we build products for other people Our self-stated mission is to “…end human suffering in the world as it relates to technology.” (And to have a lot of fun while we’re doing it!) Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

Founded in 2001 by four partners

We build no products for ourselves; rather we build products for other people

Setting Some Context Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

We Pair All the Time, Every Day Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

We believe… In building a learning organization Languages and technology can be taught Good kindergarten skills cannot We are willing to invest in our people A person’s aptitudes are more important that his or her current skills We aren’t interested as much in what you already know but what can you learn? Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

In building a learning organization

Languages and technology can be taught

Good kindergarten skills cannot

We are willing to invest in our people

A person’s aptitudes are more important that his or her current skills

We aren’t interested as much in what you already know but what can you learn?

Let’s jump into the Wayback Machine It’s 1999 Interface Systems is the #1 publicly traded company in Michigan Richard Sheridan is VP of Product Development The company has newly adopted XP as a way to improve software development capabilities Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

It’s 1999

Interface Systems is the #1 publicly traded company in Michigan

Richard Sheridan is VP of Product Development

The company has newly adopted XP as a way to improve software development capabilities

The mandate from management Double the team (from 14 to 28) Not simply increase body count, but increase productive output. New team members must embrace XP Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

Double the team

(from 14 to 28)

Not simply increase body count, but increase productive output.

New team members must embrace XP

“ Old Style” interviewing Each interviewer sits with a candidate for 1 hour Each candidate is interviewed by 3 people The people who interviewed each person meet for 30 minutes We interview 2-4-8-? candidates for each open position Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

Each interviewer sits with a candidate for 1 hour

Each candidate is interviewed by 3 people

The people who interviewed each person meet for 30 minutes

We interview 2-4-8-? candidates for each open position

Do the math… 1 hour interview X 3 interviewers X 8 candidates per position X 14 positions ---------------------- = 336 man hours This would keep 3 interviewers busy full-time for almost 3 weeks! Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

1 hour interview

X 3 interviewers

X 8 candidates per position

X 14 positions

----------------------

= 336 man hours

And would it… Predict how they’d react to the open and collaborative environment (e.g. “Where’s my cube? How come it’s so noisy?”) Effectively predict how they’d work in a paired environment? Tell us about their teamwork capabilities? Help the team hire diverse talent (e.g. with different skills than their own, or different cognitive styles)? Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

Predict how they’d react to the open and collaborative environment (e.g. “Where’s my cube? How come it’s so noisy?”)

Effectively predict how they’d work in a paired environment?

Tell us about their teamwork capabilities?

Help the team hire diverse talent (e.g. with different skills than their own, or different cognitive styles)?

What if? You could interview 50 candidates in 1 morning? You could effectively learn how they might interact with others in your work environment? (e.g. pairing behaviors)? Candidates could learn if they really like working this way before they took the job? No one reads the resumes first? Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

You could interview 50 candidates in 1 morning?

You could effectively learn how they might interact with others in your work environment? (e.g. pairing behaviors)?

Candidates could learn if they really like

working this way before they took the job?

No one reads the resumes first?

If you’re good at teamwork… … and you’re good at pairing You should be able to put team goals above your own goals You should be able to collaborate under pressure You will share the tools you’re using You should be able to work with people of different abilities Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

… and you’re good at pairing

You should be able to put team goals above your own goals

You should be able to collaborate under pressure

You will share the tools you’re using

You should be able to work with people of different abilities

So why not interview as a pair? It allows you to demonstrate your pairing skills It allows you to work with people of differing abilities It allows you to show how you work under pressure Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

It allows you to demonstrate your pairing skills

It allows you to work with people of differing abilities

It allows you to show how you work under pressure

Facilitators and Participants Facilitator Participants Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

Partners & Facilitators change Round One Round Two Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

Round One

Round Two

You are interviewing to join the Menlo Innovations’ development team. Your first activity is ESTIMATION. You have 10 minutes to complete the activity. Activity #1 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

You are interviewing to join the Menlo Innovations’ development team. Your first activity is ESTIMATION.

You have 10 minutes to complete the activity.

You’ve just gotten a new pair partner. Your next activity is PLANNING. You have 10 minutes to complete the activity. Activity #2 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

You’ve just gotten a new pair partner. Your next activity is PLANNING.

You have 10 minutes to complete the activity.

You’ve just gotten a new pair partner. Your next activity is UNIT TESTING. You have 10 minutes to complete the activity. Activity #3 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

You’ve just gotten a new pair partner. Your next activity is UNIT TESTING.

You have 10 minutes to complete the activity.

Q & A #1 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

Evaluation Process The original evaluation form was very simple. Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

The original evaluation form was very simple.

Evaluation Process It became more complex and more complete. Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

It became more complex and more complete.

Evaluation Process Ultimately what we want is a simple summary. The first decision we make is “Do we want to ask this person back for a second interview?” Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

Ultimately what we want is a simple summary.

The first decision we make is “Do we want to ask this person back for a second interview?”

You’re going to observe a pair working together. Watch the woman in the blue shirt. What do you see? Exercise #4 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

You’re going to observe a pair working together. Watch the woman in the blue shirt.

What do you see?

Interview Pair #1 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

Interview Pair #2 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

Evaluation Process Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

Q & A #2 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC

Contact Information Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC Lisamarie Babik, Menlo Innovations LLC [email_address] +1-734-665-1847 [USA]

Contact Information Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC Lisamarie Babik, Menlo Innovations LLC [email_address] +1-734-665-1847 [USA]

Contact Information Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC Lisamarie Babik, Menlo Innovations LLC [email_address] +1-734-665-1847 [USA]

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