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Published on March 3, 2008

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CATHOLIC AND PROTESTANT DISTINCTIONS: SEEKING TO UNDERSTAND OUR DIFFERENCES Charlie A. Roy Peoria Notre Dame High School Diocese of Peoria – Summer Institute 2003

UNDERSTANDING THE ORIGIN OF THE DIFFERENCE All Religions seek to provide the answer to some fundamental problem. Examples Islam – moral ignorance Buddhism – suffering Hinduism – cycle of Samsara Christianity and the fundamental problem SIN

All Religions seek to provide the answer to some fundamental problem.

Examples

Islam – moral ignorance

Buddhism – suffering

Hinduism – cycle of Samsara

Christianity and the fundamental problem

SIN

THE DOUBLE EFFECTS OF SIN Separation from God The dignity of the offended. Distance from God and humanity. Fundamental human dilemma Can’t redeem ourselves Can’t bridge the gap Attachment to Sin Human element Stuck in Sin Enjoy what we do

Separation from God

The dignity of the offended.

Distance from God and humanity.

Fundamental human dilemma

Can’t redeem ourselves

Can’t bridge the gap

Attachment to Sin

Human element

Stuck in Sin

Enjoy what we do

GOD HINTS OF HOW THIS PROBLEM WILL BE SOLVED Genesis 3:15 – Proto –Evangelium “ I will put enmity between you and the woman……her seed shall smash the head of the serpent.” Genesis 22:13 – Ram caught in the thickets Leviticus 16:21 - The Scapegoat concept Isaiah 53 – The Suffering Servant Songs

Genesis 3:15 – Proto –Evangelium

“ I will put enmity between you and the woman……her seed shall smash the head of the serpent.”

Genesis 22:13 – Ram caught in the thickets

Leviticus 16:21 - The Scapegoat concept

Isaiah 53 – The Suffering Servant Songs

JESUS IS THE ANSWER Why Jesus? Divine and human Capable of bridging the infinite gap of sin Accomplishes our atonement or at-one-ment with God. Why does he have to die? Only way out of a covenant is death. Crucifixion = greatest moment of love ever where God offers himself for our fault upon the cross. The paradox of Christianity – a stumbling block

Why Jesus?

Divine and human

Capable of bridging the infinite gap of sin

Accomplishes our atonement or at-one-ment with God.

Why does he have to die?

Only way out of a covenant is death.

Crucifixion = greatest moment of love ever where God offers himself for our fault upon the cross.

The paradox of Christianity – a stumbling block

AMAZING EVENTS WITH JESUS’ DEATH Vale of the temple is torn in two Gate falls down – recorded by Josephus

Vale of the temple is torn in two

Gate falls down – recorded by Josephus

CATHOLIC VIEW OF SALVATION Salvation = Sonship 1 John 3:1 “ See what love the Father has given us that we have become children of God, and so we are” Galatians 4:4-7 “ But when the time had fully come, God sent forth his Son, born of a woman, born under the law to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons” 2 nd Peter 1:4 “ by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promise that we might escape from corruption that is in the world and become partakers of the divine nature” Catechism 459, 460

Salvation = Sonship

1 John 3:1

“ See what love the Father has given us that we have become children of God, and so we are”

Galatians 4:4-7

“ But when the time had fully come, God sent forth his Son, born of a woman, born under the law to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons”

2 nd Peter 1:4

“ by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promise that we might escape from corruption that is in the world and become partakers of the divine nature”

Catechism 459, 460

SACRAMENTAL ECONOMY Sacraments prefigured in OT rituals. Sacraments predicted by the prophets Ezekiel 36:25-28 Sacraments give sanctifying grace to us- grace a share in the life of God. Deep sea diving analogy. Heaven is not a natural state Need supernatural grace etc. to live there

Sacraments prefigured in OT rituals.

Sacraments predicted by the prophets

Ezekiel 36:25-28

Sacraments give sanctifying grace to us- grace a share in the life of God.

Deep sea diving analogy.

Heaven is not a natural state

Need supernatural grace etc. to live there

 

 

WHAT ABOUT GOOD WORKS? Not Pelagian. We do not earn grace. By the effects of grace we keep the Ten Commandments Our Good works are rewarded

Not Pelagian. We do not earn grace.

By the effects of grace we keep the Ten Commandments

Our Good works are rewarded

UNDERSTANDING MERIT Strict merit Legal Contracts / purchases Congruent merit Expected but not required Tipping, holding the door open for someone Condign merit Based on a promise This is the type of merit we are talking about. Titus 3:8, Matthew 10:42, Timothy 3:16-17

Strict merit

Legal

Contracts / purchases

Congruent merit

Expected but not required

Tipping, holding the door open for someone

Condign merit

Based on a promise

This is the type of merit we are talking about.

Titus 3:8, Matthew 10:42, Timothy 3:16-17

HEAVEN IS NOT COMMUNISM Differing degrees of glory. St. Therese and the bucket analogy. Everyone expands their own capability to mirror God’s love. Some respond better than others. In heaven everyone as happy and holy as they can be.

Differing degrees of glory.

St. Therese and the bucket analogy.

Everyone expands their own capability to mirror God’s love.

Some respond better than others.

In heaven everyone as happy and holy as they can be.

TO BE IN HEAVEN Need God’s grace. Need to be holy Second effect of sin: attachment God’s remedy Confession Absolution = forgiveness Penance severs the attachment to sin.

Need God’s grace.

Need to be holy

Second effect of sin: attachment

God’s remedy

Confession

Absolution = forgiveness

Penance severs the attachment to sin.

GRACE BUT ATTACHED TO SIN Catholic Understanding of Purgatory Where is it in the Bible? 2 nd Maccabbees 12:46 1 st Corinthians 3:15 2 nd Timothy 1:16-17

Catholic Understanding of Purgatory

Where is it in the Bible?

2 nd Maccabbees 12:46

1 st Corinthians 3:15

2 nd Timothy 1:16-17

SUMMARY OF CATHOLIC VIEW OF SALVATION Only possible because of Christ Grace possible and offered through Sacramental Economy We become sons and daughters of God Salvation by impartation: God’s grace imparted to us. Our actions don’t earn us heaven but they are meritorious before God.

Only possible because of Christ

Grace possible and offered through Sacramental Economy

We become sons and daughters of God

Salvation by impartation: God’s grace imparted to us.

Our actions don’t earn us heaven but they are meritorious before God.

BACKGROUND OF PROTESTANT REVOLUTION Rise of Nominalism William of Ockham – stresses the all powerfulness of God. “God could have crucified a donkey to atone for our sins.” Heavy Islamic influence. Gabriel Biel: Luther’s professor extends Nominalism to Theology and stresses God usually acts in a predictable way and rewards those who do their asolute best Black Plague 1/3 of population dies 90% of clergy

Rise of Nominalism

William of Ockham – stresses the all powerfulness of God. “God could have crucified a donkey to atone for our sins.” Heavy Islamic influence.

Gabriel Biel: Luther’s professor extends Nominalism to Theology and stresses God usually acts in a predictable way and rewards those who do their asolute best

Black Plague

1/3 of population dies

90% of clergy

LUTHER’S TEACHING Romans 3:28: “ Man is saved by faith apart from works of the Law” Faith imputes righteousness. Luther’s dung analogy We switch places with Christ on the cross. We are essentially horrible and our faith covers us like snow covering a dung heap Misreading of the crucifixion – Psalm 22 key.

Romans 3:28: “ Man is saved by faith apart from works of the Law”

Faith imputes righteousness.

Luther’s dung analogy

We switch places with Christ on the cross.

We are essentially horrible and our faith covers us like snow covering a dung heap

Misreading of the crucifixion – Psalm 22 key.

 

LOGICAL OUTCOMES OF SALVATION BY IMPUTATION Purgatory Instant justification provides no means for losing the attachments to sin. Cult of the Saints No need for intercessors. Mortal and Venial Sin Faith only- “I could commit adultery a thousand times a day and still go to heaven” Confession – not needed after theology regarding attachment to sin is abandoned. Luther’s comment. No Free Will – so damaged we can only sin. Double Predestination –logical outcome of no free will.

Purgatory

Instant justification provides no means for losing the attachments to sin.

Cult of the Saints

No need for intercessors.

Mortal and Venial Sin

Faith only- “I could commit adultery a thousand times a day and still go to heaven”

Confession – not needed after theology regarding attachment to sin is abandoned. Luther’s comment.

No Free Will – so damaged we can only sin.

Double Predestination –logical outcome of no free will.

SOLA SCRIPTURA Scripture alone is needed not the Church’s authority to interpret the Scriptures. Anyone can interpret as well as anyone else. Catholic View Magesterium of the Church interprets Scripture 2 nd Peter 1:20 “No scripture or prophecy is a matter of one’s own personal interpretation.” 2 nd Peter 3:16 “Peter warns many in his own day are twisting the scriptures to their own ends. Matthew 18:17-18 “If he refuses to listen tell it to the Church.” Acts 8:30-31 “Phillip interprets the scroll” Acts 15 Council of Jerusalem

Scripture alone is needed not the Church’s authority to interpret the Scriptures.

Anyone can interpret as well as anyone else.

Catholic View

Magesterium of the Church interprets Scripture

2 nd Peter 1:20 “No scripture or prophecy is a matter of one’s own personal interpretation.”

2 nd Peter 3:16 “Peter warns many in his own day are twisting the scriptures to their own ends.

Matthew 18:17-18 “If he refuses to listen tell it to the Church.”

Acts 8:30-31 “Phillip interprets the scroll”

Acts 15 Council of Jerusalem

NATURAL OUTCOMES Splintering of denominations 22,000 now exist in North America Clergy lose authority to teach. Everyman for themselves.

Splintering of denominations

22,000 now exist in North America

Clergy lose authority to teach.

Everyman for themselves.

SUMMARY One small difference in view of salvation leads to large difference over time. Differences rest with: Sola Fidei, Sola Scriptura, and the Priesthood of all believers.

One small difference in view of salvation leads to large difference over time.

Differences rest with: Sola Fidei, Sola Scriptura, and the Priesthood of all believers.

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